A&P

[MikeRa]

Originally posted by Mobil
This Kroger in the Atlanta area appears to be a former SuperFresh or Waldbaum's. I read Kroger bought many stores from A&P in the South. They bought the Albertsons in my area.

The Atlanta area had "A&P Food Market" as the banner name in the Atlanta market.

[Joeg]

Waldbaums  stores were never in the Atlanta area.  They were/are a Northeast chain.  Don't forget A&P bought out Big Star supermarkets, they ran that chain in the Southeast , primarly in Georgia.

[videogamer75]

Here is an old A&P sign in Hammonton, NJ, After A&P it was a supermarket called PLUS, and after that it was a gymnastics club, now it's subdivided into Hometown Video and Family Dollar.

[BillyGr]

Originally posted by videogamer75
Here is an old A&P sign in Hammonton, NJ, After A&P it was a supermarket called PLUS, and after that it was a gymnastics club, now it's subdivided into Hometown Video and Family Dollar.

Not sure when this store was labelled PLUS, but A&P used that name on some stores (I think late 70's - early 80's) - it was a limited assrotment out of the case format (similar to Aldi).
That was not too long after Tengelmann had purchased A&P, and I believe this was a format they used in Germany, and thought they'd try out here in the U.S. on some smaller existing stores.  At the time, it didn't catch on, so they shut down pretty quickly.

[MikeRa]

Originally posted by BillyGr

Originally posted by videogamer75
Here is an old A&P sign in Hammonton, NJ, After A&P it was a supermarket called PLUS, and after that it was a gymnastics club, now it's subdivided into Hometown Video and Family Dollar.

Not sure when this store was labelled PLUS, but A&P used that name on some stores (I think late 70's - early 80's) - it was a limited assrotment out of the case format (similar to Aldi).
That was not too long after Tengelmann had purchased A&P, and I believe this was a format they used in Germany, and thought they'd try out here in the U.S. on some smaller existing stores.  At the time, it didn't catch on, so they shut down pretty quickly.

Tengelmann still owns 30% of Plus Germany, and 100% of Obi Germany, Kaiser's Tenglemann Germany, KiK Germany, and A&P :cool:

[Mobil]

Why are all the A&Ps in PA now SuperFresh but the ones in NJ are still A&P? And why did they have to close so many of their centennial stores? They demolished two near me. :flaming:

In Wilmington, DE, there is a former centennial A&P, now a thrift store. It moved across the street to a newer SuperFresh, and that closed and was torn down. :holysh: There is also a former centennial A&P in Bellmawr, NJ, just down the street from a newer SuperFresh that sits abandoned. :flaming:

[CTAmeshopper]

Originally posted by AmesNewington
...and here's a photo of the front of the store now. Notice that the green stripe on the "Foodmart" photo has been painted over in gold like the rest of the building in the new photo:



(Both photos courtesy of the A&P/Super Foodmart website)

that looks nice.:bigsmile:

[MikeRa]

Originally posted by Mobil
Why are all the A&Ps in PA now SuperFresh but the ones in NJ are still A&P? And why did they have to close so many of their centennial stores? They demolished two near me. :flaming:

In Wilmington, DE, there is a former centennial A&P, now a thrift store. It moved across the street to a newer SuperFresh, and that closed and was torn down. :holysh: There is also a former centennial A&P in Bellmawr, NJ, just down the street from a newer SuperFresh that sits abandoned. :flaming:

The main reason was, when A&P tried to exit the Philadelphia market in 1982, Philadelphia Grocery Union 1776 basiclly forced A&P to stay, hence they created a new store name: Super Fresh in 1983.

In South New Jersey, the "Fresh" division operates under the Super Fresh Food Market and Super Fresh Super Store name, and in North and Central NJ that the "Fresh" division operates under the "A&P Food Market", "Super A&P Food Market" and A&P Fresh Market" names.

[Mobil]

Originally posted by MikeRa

Originally posted by Mobil
Why are all the A&Ps in PA now SuperFresh but the ones in NJ are still A&P? And why did they have to close so many of their centennial stores? They demolished two near me. :flaming:

In Wilmington, DE, there is a former centennial A&P, now a thrift store. It moved across the street to a newer SuperFresh, and that closed and was torn down. :holysh: There is also a former centennial A&P in Bellmawr, NJ, just down the street from a newer SuperFresh that sits abandoned. :flaming:

The main reason was, when A&P tried to exit the Philadelphia market in 1982, Philadelphia Grocery Union 1776 basiclly forced A&P to stay, hence they created a new store name: Super Fresh in 1983.

In South New Jersey, the "Fresh" division operates under the Super Fresh Food Market and Super Fresh Super Store name, and in North and Central NJ that the "Fresh" division operates under the "A&P Food Market", "Super A&P Food Market" and A&P Fresh Market" names.

Thanks for the info. I read in a news article about A&P something about unions and Super Fresh and 1982. Odd that the union would be able to stop them from closing, considering they closed as many stores as they did in the area.

I read that A&P closed 800 stores from 1971 to 1974, and closed thousands more from 1975 to 1982. There were rounds of closings from 1999-2002. Lately A&P has made a comeback, like with the acquisition of the Clemens stores and Pathmark.

When A&P closed, was there a big GOB sale?

[AmesNewington]

Right now, it seems A&P is keeping the # of stores it has (around 450) and focusing on their existing locations. They are re-modeling A&P stores and converting Pathmarks to Pathmark Sav-A-Centers. Maybe within the next few years, they will expand further in their existing Northeast markets. I'm hoping Connecticut sees new stores. They can always expand their Food Basics chain to CT.

[MikeRa]

Originally posted by BillyGr
Here are a couple A&P (and relatives) from a recent trip -

The first appears to be an older store, now being used as a thrift center - this is in Stanton, DE.

The second is a still open store in Newark, DE - it happens to be quite near part of the UofDelaware campus, which probably helps it stay open to some degree (and there aren't other stores in that area - at least not groceries).

The last one is in the area of Woodbridge, NJ on Route 1 - This store closed about 5 years ago (give or take) when they opened a newer store a couple miles away.  As you can see from the inset - it is a fairly small store.  It was also used as something else for a while, hence the purple coloring.

The second picture has always been owned by A&P.  First as a&P, and then as Super Fresh.

The last picture former A&P on Route 1, in Woodbridge, NJ, is now "Favorites of Woodbridge".  It is a Off Track Betting site owned by NJSEA, the owners of Monmouth Park Racetrack, the Aquarium in Camden, NJ and Giants Stadium.

[CTAmeshopper]

I saw the Waldbaums Food in West Hartford yesterday it looks like they're also branding their stores as Fresh, it had a big Fresh sign underneath it that overpowered the Waldbaums name. It exactly the same as A&P Fresh except it's Waldbaums Fresh instead of A&P Fresh and the Fresh part is in white.Are they owned by the same company? must be. Silly me, of course they are!

the name Fresh reminds me of the 80'-early 90's slang of "freeeeeeeeeeesh" when describing something being new. :insane:

[AmesNewington]

Originally posted by CTAmeshopper
I saw the Waldbaums Food in West Hartford yesterday it looks like they're also branding their stores as Fresh, it had a big Fresh sign underneath it that overpowered the Waldbaums name. It exactly the same as A&P Fresh except it's Waldbaums Fresh instead of A&P Fresh and the Fresh part is in white.Are they owned by the same company? must be. Silly me, of course they are!

the name Fresh reminds me of the 80'-early 90's slang of "freeeeeeeeeeesh" when describing something being new. :insane:

Yeah, that's where I work! It's called Waldbaum's Fresh on the outside. It was Waldbaum's Foodmart (the signs are still on the window of the bottle return). Even though it's Waldbaum's Fresh, it's still branded as an A&P Super Foodmart, like the rest of the CT A&P's. The bags have that name on them, and the receipts say Super Foodmart. In all, the name of the store combined is Waldbaum's A&P Super Foodmart. It's confusing. Checks have a series of different names on them.

[Mobil]

This was a Howard Johnson's. Looked like an A&P to me.

[momof3]

AmesNewington, I went to Berlin Foodmart friday morning around 1130 and it was quite busy.  In fact as I was finishing up loading my groceries, a man asked if he could have my carriage becasue he said he could't find one. I am headed back there this afternoon to pick up a few things so i will let you know how business is.

[AmesNewington]

Originally posted by momof3
AmesNewington, I went to Berlin Foodmart friday morning around 1130 and it was quite busy.  In fact as I was finishing up loading my groceries, a man asked if he could have my carriage becasue he said he could't find one. I am headed back there this afternoon to pick up a few things so i will let you know how business is.

Hey momof3!

Wow, that's awesome to hear. It's a good thing you posted that, because I stopped by the store on Friday at around 5PM and it was very slow, but still enough people for the day after Thanksgiving. I guess everyone was off from work and didn't go food shopping in the evening, rather during the day.

How many registers were open? Whenever I go there (Wednesday 11AM and with mom at 7AM Saturday), Register 7 is ALWAYS open, and so is 10 and the U-Scans. Sometimes 9 is open and 5 is open on Sundays. I never get there when it's busy, that's why I am always concerned.

Another thing momof3, something that bothers me about the Berlin Foodmart is that there has been a lot of leaks in their ceiling and there are tiles missing as a result and it looks kind of "cheap". I think the store needs a new ceiling. I'm not expecting a remodel, they should just make cosmetic improvements. The floors in the aisles are looking a bit aged too. But overall, I still love to shop there.

[momof3]

Went to Berlin Foodmart about an hour ago, it wasn't crazy busy but there were shoppers there. On Friday there was about 5 registers open and the uscans but i noticed more the isles were very crowded that day.
Didn't notice the ceiling (I will have to look next time) but did notice one the receipt a new store managers name.

[AmesNewington]

I'm going to the Berlin Foodmart in about an hour. I'm expecting it to be quiet as always. momof3, while you were at Berlin yesterday, I was just starting my shift at W. Hartford. Of course, every register is open there.

Can you name any cashiers that were at Berlin? Me and my mom seem to get Charlie every week and I use the U-Scans when I go alone.

[momof3]

Charlie was there on Friday when I went, On friday i used the u-scan becasue my son wanted to do it (and we had alot of stuff and it was a pain) Yesterday I think i was originally in the shorter ladies line (she has short hair and a slight accent) but then the guy who was up front had me go to uscan and he scanned it for me becasue the lines were backing up.  
Barry was doing the carts on Friday, hes the older guy with the glasses who is always so happy.

[AmesNewington]

I was searching the internet and found two pictures of the Bridgeport A&P (Super Foodmart) via a random website. It looks to be a very distressed store. I've heard that people hang out at the exits and beg for money. It's rather sad.

You can't see too much in these two pictures, but you could get a good idea of how the store would look inside. Why would A&P allow a store to look this way? Below is a picture of the store via the A&P site:

Here is the link to that site:

http://www.pimpthissite.com/ap.htm

[DerangedHermit]

Originally posted by AmesNewington
I was searching the internet and found two pictures of the Bridgeport A&P (Super Foodmart) via a random website. It looks to be a very distressed store. I've heard that people hang out at the exits and beg for money. It's rather sad.

You can't see too much in these two pictures, but you could get a good idea of how the store would look inside. Why would A&P allow a store to look this way? Below is a picture of the store via the A&P site:

Here is the link to that site:

http://www.pimpthissite.com/ap.htm

Was this a former Waldbaum's?

[Joeg]

Yes it was a former Waldbaums when Waldbaums first moved into Connecticut in the early 70's.  This store was orginally know as the "King Cole" store.  It was basiclly like Copaco's was in Bloomfield CT, then Waldbaums bought them out.  They used both names for awhile.

This store was first remodeled in 1986 and then again in the earyly 90's.  

Was there along time ago, and it was pretty dismall inside.

[arnoldziffel]

i wonder what the odds are that a&p would rebrand all their stores as a&p's again.  I miss that old a&p logo and ann page products.

[momof3]

Went to the berlin Foodmart on Sat (around 1130) and again it was quite busy, i am happy because I like to shop that store alot.

[AmesNewington]

Thanks momof3 for the update! I really can't tell how busy that store is because it is so big. Went shopping with mom on Friday night, and business was fair, but not as busy as West Hartford. I also discovered that they close the bakery at 6PM. My mom used to come in for work at 6PM in the bakery!

A&P/Waldbaum's lowered the price of donuts to .39 each. Ever since the day the sale price started, the donuts are GONE by 6PM in West Hartford. When I went to Berlin Friday night, the whole case of donuts (I have no idea if they have them like my store has), muffins, rolls and bagels (except for 3) were gone.

[MikeRa]

Originally posted by arnoldziffel
i wonder what the odds are that a&p would rebrand all their stores as a&p's again.  I miss that old a&p logo and ann page products.

I can see them eventually rebranding the Superfresh and Waldbaum's back to A&P, while still keeping the Pathmark (Price Impact format), Food Emporium (Gourmet format) and Food Basics names, since the A&P, Superfresh, and Waldbaum's is the "Fresh" format stores.

[DerangedHermit]

Originally posted by MikeRa

Originally posted by arnoldziffel
i wonder what the odds are that a&p would rebrand all their stores as a&p's again.  I miss that old a&p logo and ann page products.

I can see them eventually rebranding the Superfresh and Waldbaum's back to A&P, while still keeping the Pathmark (Price Impact format), Food Emporium (Gourmet format) and Food Basics names, since the A&P, Superfresh, and Waldbaum's is the "Fresh" format stores.

I could see some consolidation (Food Basics into Pathmark Sav-A-Center, some Food Emporiums into Fresh Markets), but most will stay the same. Waldbaums is too known on Long Island to simply throw the name away.

They want to make people think they have choices, when the fact is that they don't have many at all. By buying Pathmark, A&P is trying to maintain its last semblance of market dominance. But with companies like Wakefern (Shoprite & Pricerite) and Ahold (Giant Carlisle, Giant Landover, and Stop & Shop), as well as the usual Wal-Marts and Targets, that will be difficult.

[AmesNewington]

What interests me of course is whether the A&P Super Foodmart stores in Connecticut, which as it is are basically now known as either A&P or Waldbaums, will be fully transformed in to regular A&P stores. By that, will they remove all aspects of the Super Foodmart name on receipts, bags, etc. I sort of hope not, but I'm sure many of the CT stores will eventually be an A&P Fresh like Branford, Greenwich and Riverside.

I don't believe the Waldbaums name will disappear. Stores like West Hartford thrive on that name, primarily for their Jewish customers. Plus, A&P has already transformed many Waldbaum's in to Waldbaum's Fresh stores, so I doubt they would do that only to change them to A&P.

[DerangedHermit]

Originally posted by AmesNewington
What interests me of course is whether the A&P Super Foodmart stores in Connecticut, which as it is are basically now known as either A&P or Waldbaums, will be fully transformed in to regular A&P stores. By that, will they remove all aspects of the Super Foodmart name on receipts, bags, etc. I sort of hope not, but I'm sure many of the CT stores will eventually be an A&P Fresh like Branford, Greenwich and Riverside.[/quote[

I will imagine the stores will be refreshed and renamed to the Fresh Market style as needed.

I don't believe the Waldbaums name will disappear. Stores like West Hartford thrive on that name, primarily for their Jewish customers. Plus, A&P has already transformed many Waldbaum's in to Waldbaum's Fresh stores, so I doubt they would do that only to change them to A&P.

I can't say for certain because I don't get around all over, but it seems that the Fresh Market changeovers in Suffolk have slowed down. Only Stop & Shop seems to constantly be renovating and opening new stores around here.

[Mobil]

The former A&P at Bucks County Mall in Feasterville, PA, was white and is now green. There is a dead Eckerd next to it. This mall also has an Acme.