Every remaining Martin's that was a Ukrop's would be sold or close under the proposal; note that not a single Giant-Carlisle store is listed (unless, of course, you include the Martin's that were Ukrop's overseen by the Giant-Carlisle division.) Food Lion will apparently be abandoning its northermost markets as well. Hannaford bears the brunt of closures in overlap areas with Stop & Shop, at least in Massachusetts.
Food Lion
17232 Village Main Blvd Lewes, DE
24832 John Williams Hwy Millsboro, DE
36731 Old Mill Rd. Millville, DE
19287 Miller Rd Rehoboth Beach, DE
409 N. McNeill Rd. Berryville, MD
45315 Alton Lane California, MD
20995 Point Lookout Callaway, MD
5896 Robert Oliver Place Columbia, MD
15300 McMullen Hwy., SW Cumberland, MD
219 Marlboro Ave. Easton, MD
3261 Solomons Island Rd. Edgewater, MD
6551 Waterloo Rd. Elkridge, MD
6375 Monroe Ave Eldersburg, MD
17600 Old National Sq Pike Frostburg, MD
16567 S. Frederick Rd Gaithersburg, MD
883 Russell Ave Gaithersburg, MD
18360 College Rd. Hagerstown, MD
18717 North Pointe Dr. Hagerstown, MD
17718 Virginia Ave. Hagerstown, MD
761 E. Wilson Blvd Hagerstown, MD
19 St Mary’s Sq. Lexington Park, MD
210 Harry Truman Rd Lusby, MD
12100 Central Ave Mitchellville, MD
9251 Lakeside Blvd. Owings Mills, MD
750 Pr Frederick Blvd Prince Frederick, MD
10 Village Center Rd. Reisterstown, MD
5715 Crain Hwy Upper Marlboro, MD
875 Lincoln Way West Chambersburg, PA
4170 Philadelphia Ave. Chambersburg, PA
11105 Buchanan Trail Waynesboro, PA
3611 E. Market St. York, PA
505 Meadowbrook SC Culpeper, VA
540 Culpeper Town Mall Culpeper, VA
260 Remount Rd. Front Royal, VA
609 E. Main St. Purcellville, VA
380 Fairfax Pike Stephens City, VA
707 Fort Collier Rd Winchester, VA
2600 Valley Ave. Winchester, VA
249 Sunnyside Plaza Circle Winchester, VA
190 Delco Plaza Winchester, VA
159 Grocery Ave Winchester, VA
1317 Old Courthouse Sq Martinsburg, WV
11400 Winchester Ave. Martinsburg, WV
Giant/Landover
7025 Berry Rd. Accokeek, MD
200 Rosewick Rd. La Plata, MD
751 S. Salisbury Blvd. Salisbury, MD
550 Celebration V Pkwy Fredericksburg, VA
5701 Plank Rd Fredericksburg, VA
1245 Jefferson Davis Fredericksburg, VA
35 Town & Country Dr. Fredericksburg, VA
10346 Courthouse Rd. Spotsylvania, VA
317 Worth Rd. Stafford, VA
Hannaford
25 Robert Dr. Easton, MA
2 Timpany Blvd. Gardner, MA
182 Summer St. Kingston, MA
Medway Rd. Milford, MA
475 Hancock St. North Quincy, MA
10 Washington St. Norwell, MA
434 Walpole St. Norwood, MA
357 Broadway Saugus, MA
Martin’s
253 N. Washington Hwy Ashland, VA
12601 Jefferson Davis Hwy Chester, VA
6401 Centralia Rd. Chesterfield, VA
3107 Boulevard #15 Colonial Heights, VA
40150 Brooke Rd Glen Allen, VA
9645 W. Broad Glen Allen, VA
10250 Staple Mill Rd Glen Allen, VA
13700 Hull Street Rd. Midlothian, VA
200 Charter Colony Pkwy Midlothian, VA
1522 West Cary St. Richmond, VA
10001 Hull St. Rd. Richmond, VA
3460 Pump Rd Richmond, VA
2250 John Rolfe Pkwy Richmond, VA
7045 Forest Hill Ave Richmond, VA
5700 Brook Rd Richmond, VA
7055 Three Chopt Richmond, VA
11361 Midlothian Tpke Richmond, VA
4591 South Laburnum Ave Richmond, VA
5201 Chippenham Crossing Ctr. Richmond, VA
1015 Richmond Ave. Staunton, VA
Stop & Shop
384 Timpany Blvd. Gardner, MA
271 Main St. New Paltz, NY
1357 US Highway 9 Wappingers Falls, NY
Quote from: retailisking on March 21, 2016, 01:56:21 PM
Hannaford bears the brunt of closures in overlap areas with Stop & Shop.
Actually only in the areas in MA where they overlap. The only two stores listed in the NY overlap area are both S&S locations (and only two, while the local sites had been suggesting three).
Very interesting...many of the stores are local to me. I'm anxious to learn who might buy. The Delaware and Easton, MD locations are in some higher income areas, and a lot of the Food Lions are relatively up to date. The Salisbury, MD Giant is a different animal: it must be 50+ years old, in an older part of town, but it is consistently the busiest supermarket I've been in. It's a very long, narrow store.
I haven't kept up on the merger...will there be conversions of Food Lions to Giants or vice versa?
I wonder who'll buy those stores??
Stop & Shop Rhinebeck,NY is also for sale!!!
Quote from: nysw3636 on March 30, 2016, 05:15:48 PM
Stop & Shop Rhinebeck,NY is also for sale!!!
Is that official? There was a story in the Poughkeepsie Journal a couple of weeks ago listing the store, but I haven't read anything about that location since then.
Quote from: JimSawhill on March 26, 2016, 10:44:12 PM
I wonder who'll buy those stores??
I doubt it will be Albertsons Companies,for MD and VA, since in MD they have Acme and Safeway, and VA they have Safeway. I can see Albertsons companies acquiring the DE, PA, and WV stores, possibility the MA stores.
Quote from: MikeRa on March 30, 2016, 05:56:14 PM
Quote from: JimSawhill on March 26, 2016, 10:44:12 PM
I wonder who'll buy those stores??
I doubt it will be Albertsons Companies,for MD and VA, since in MD they have Acme and Safeway, and VA they have Safeway. I can see Albertsons companies acquiring the DE, PA, and WV stores, possibility the MA stores.
Don't forget they already have Shaw's stores in MA as well, though I don't know how they sit in proximity to the Hannaford and one Stop & Shop in MA being listed.
Same could go for Acme as they are in DE and PA also, just depends on how these locations fit their existing footprint.
Also they could potentially look at the two Stop & Shop locations listed in NY, since their (Acme's) recent purchases of A&P stores in NY are relatively close to (but not too close to) at least the Wappinger's Falls location, and New Paltz isn't really that far either (save finding a bridge to cross the river).
Quote from: BillyGr on March 30, 2016, 07:33:52 PM
Quote from: MikeRa on March 30, 2016, 05:56:14 PM
Quote from: JimSawhill on March 26, 2016, 10:44:12 PM
I wonder who'll buy those stores??
I doubt it will be Albertsons Companies,for MD and VA, since in MD they have Acme and Safeway, and VA they have Safeway. I can see Albertsons companies acquiring the DE, PA, and WV stores, possibility the MA stores.
Don't forget they already have Shaw's stores in MA as well, though I don't know how they sit in proximity to the Hannaford and one Stop & Shop in MA being listed.
Same could go for Acme as they are in DE and PA also, just depends on how these locations fit their existing footprint.
Also they could potentially look at the two Stop & Shop locations listed in NY, since their (Acme's) recent purchases of A&P stores in NY are relatively close to (but not too close to) at least the Wappinger's Falls location, and New Paltz isn't really that far either (save finding a bridge to cross the river).
The Food Lion stores in Chambersburg and Waynesboro are nowhere near any Acme Markets. The York, PA might be near an acme Markets in Chester County.
It looks like the Hannaford stores are near Shaw's stores, especially North Quincy locaton. Acme can easily take the 2 NY S&S stores.
Acme has been on the decline for decades on the Delmarva peninsula, largely had the hand of Food Lion. Many older, smaller locations couldn't compete when FL came to town. Safeway, meanwhile, has been building new stores as of late. I could see them picking and choosing some locations. Salisbury, MD hasn't had either an Acme or Safeway for years. I could see the Giant getting a major facelift to become a Safeway.
In Easton, MD Safeway has a tiny (by today's standards) old store located right downtown. It would be easy for them to move the short distance away to the Food Lion...except that Acme would be right across the street. With Harris-Teeter just opening up in town it seems the higher end of the market would be running out of oxygen.
Another player that's been opening lots of stores in DE: Redner's. This could be a great chance for them to expand.
Rumorville...
S&S New Paltz- Shop Rite & Market 32 (Price Chopper) bidding
S&S Rhinebeck- Shop Rite bidding
S&S Wappinger Falls- ?? (dead store)
Quote from: nysw3636 on April 11, 2016, 06:24:56 PM
Rumorville...
S&S New Paltz- Shop Rite & Market 32 (Price Chopper) bidding
S&S Rhinebeck- Shop Rite bidding
S&S Wappinger Falls- ?? (dead store)
Any updates on the sales process?
86 units have been unloaded to various parties. It's a real page-turner...
http://best-met.com/news/breaking-news-ahold-delhaize-sell-86-stores-weis-supervalu-publix-gain-merger-track-late-july-closing/
As for Tops buying 6 Stop & Shop stores, they list Carmel and Lagrange as S&S's... They are Hannafords...
Quote from: retailisking on July 13, 2016, 10:44:08 PM
86 units have been unloaded to various parties. It's a real page-turner...
http://best-met.com/news/breaking-news-ahold-delhaize-sell-86-stores-weis-supervalu-publix-gain-merger-track-late-july-closing/
For the most part the outcome doesn't seem all that bad. Weis grows in DC/Baltimore and gives Virginia another shot, Big Y gets into Greater Boston, Supervalu gets to grow their Shop n' Save banner, and Publix gets into Richmond with a lot less effort than originally intended.
The Tops acquisition is a real head scratcher and makes me wonder if they have other plans up their sleeves in buying some independent markets out to grow in eastern New York as well as that outlier in Garner, MA. Good planning that they get the Gardner Hannaford which has a beer/wine/liquor license that they can easily keep.
I wonder where the Golubs were in this. The Hudson Valley stores going to Tops would've been a great way to grow the Market 32 brand slightly southward towards NYC and the Greater Boston stores going to Big Y would've done the same in that market. Might the conversion process of most of their stores from Price Chopper be eating up most of their energy to expand further or might something else be going on. A similar case could be said for Giant Eagle as the Shop n' Save stores and some of the fringe Weis acquisitions would've filled the gap between their core and the Frederick, MD outliers.
I think you hit the nail on the head about the Golubs. They really missed a golden opportunity here; instead they have put all their eggs into the Market 32 basket and presumably have no resources for further expansion through acquisition.
Quote from: Scrabbleship on July 14, 2016, 07:26:14 PM
The Tops acquisition is a real head scratcher and makes me wonder if they have other plans up their sleeves in buying some independent markets out to grow in eastern New York as well as that outlier in Garner, MA. Good planning that they get the Gardner Hannaford which has a beer/wine/liquor license that they can easily keep.
I wonder where the Golubs were in this. The Hudson Valley stores going to Tops would've been a great way to grow the Market 32 brand slightly southward towards NYC and the Greater Boston stores going to Big Y would've done the same in that market. Might the conversion process of most of their stores from Price Chopper be eating up most of their energy to expand further or might something else be going on. A similar case could be said for Giant Eagle as the Shop n' Save stores and some of the fringe Weis acquisitions would've filled the gap between their core and the Frederick, MD outliers.
Somehow I don't even think the Tops chain was "on the radar" when it came to those stores. Unless, perhaps, they still have some sort of background connections from their days as part of the Ahold group?
The 5 in NY aren't really that odd, since they are not really too far away from a few of the former Grand Union locations that they got in/near the Catskills, and all 5 are in reasonable proximity to each other. The only thing that might have been is if they took the one GU they didn't get in Millerton, as that at the time seemed a bit out from the rest, but would be more logical now with these stores added in.
Now, that one in MA... that seems a bit odd.
As to Price 32 (or is that Market Chopper ;)) it could very well be the funds going towards renovating, but they have also built one new location in the Market 32 format and have at least one more under construction so that adds a bit of confusion to it.
Big Y buying the Boston area stores is surprising...I think Market Basket will beat Big Y, both stores are hurting thou...(Big Y closed some stores recently, Market Basket family is still fighting each other)
Quote from: JimSawhill on July 19, 2016, 12:02:27 PM
Big Y buying the Boston area stores is surprising...I think Market Basket will beat Big Y, both stores are hurting thou...(Big Y closed some stores recently, Market Basket family is still fighting each other)
Market Basket is in a paradoxical situation, free to do whatever it wants with the other side of the family out of the picture, but with so much debt that they have to slow their expansion. Big Y was hurting not that long ago (not unlike Weis in the mid-Atlantic) but seem to be on a stable footing and best able to take advantage of these opportunities. The Demoulas family is still fighting each other in court, but over tax issues, not the operation of the Market Basket stores.
The FTC has signed off on the merger
http://supermarketnews.com/ahold-delhaize-merger/ahold-delhaize-begins-trading-new-logo-website-revealed
Ended up at the North Quincy Hannaford yesterday, people from Big Y were already doing a second round of due diligence and a couple of employees mentioned a date for Big Y opening: September 12th.
An interesting wrinkle in this is how the Walgreens/Rite Aid merger will play into this. North Quincy and Saugus have a Rite Aid right next door and have a larger Walgreens close by. I can see the leases, and if possible pharmacy licenses, for both acquired by Big Y with both being used for expansion.
I heard that Shop Rite had the lowest $$ bids. Just saying...
Quote from: Scrabbleship on July 26, 2016, 09:40:21 AM
Ended up at the North Quincy Hannaford yesterday, people from Big Y were already doing a second round of due diligence and a couple of employees mentioned a date for Big Y opening: September 12th.
An interesting wrinkle in this is how the Walgreens/Rite Aid merger will play into this. North Quincy and Saugus have a Rite Aid right next door and have a larger Walgreens close by. I can see the leases, and if possible pharmacy licenses, for both acquired by Big Y with both being used for expansion.
Good point - Big Y does have its own in-house pharmacy operation, plus the FTC likes competition.
Will the combined Ahold Delhaize now use the "Giant/Martins/Stop & Shop" Fruit Bowl brands, or will they use the "My Essentials" brand?
Here are the ones Weis is purchasing:
2565 17232 N Village Main Blvd Lewes DE
960 24832 John J Williams Hwy Millsboro DE
1321 36731 Old Mill Road Millville DE
488 19287 Miller Road Rehoboth Beach DE
1356 15789 Livingston Road Accokeek MD
784 45315 Alton Lane California MD
2515 20995 Point Lookout Road Callaway MD
2598 5896 Robert Oliver Place Columbia MD
1549 15300 Mcmullen Hwy SW Cumberland MD
1289 219 Marlboro Avenue Easton MD
1315 3261 Solomons Island Road Edgewater MD
1324 6375 Monroe Avenue Eldersburg MD
1529 6551 Waterloo Road Elkridge MD
1187 17600 Old National Sq Pike Frostburg MD
1345 16567 South Frederick Road Gaithersburg MD
1477 883 Russell Avenue Gaithersburg MD
1168 100 Drury Drive La Plata MD
1210 19 St. Mary’s Square Lexington Park MD
2606 210 H G Trueman Road Lusby MD
1387 12100 Central Avenue Mitchellville MD
2535 9251 Lakeside Boulevard Owings Mills MD
1526 750 Prince Frederick Blvd Prince Frederick MD
786 10 Village Center Road Reisterstown MD
1443 13300 H G Trueman Road Solomons MD
1535 5715 Crain Highway Upper Marlboro MD
250 505 Meadowbrook Shopping Ctr Culpeper VA
1567 540 Culpeper Town Mall Culpeper VA
1235 10601 Spotsylvania Avenue Fredericksburg VA
419 10611 Courthouse Road Fredericksburg VA
2583 10871 Tidewater Trail Fredericksburg VA
358 282 Deacon Road Fredericksburg VA
450 4153 Plank Road Fredericksburg VA
1043 515 Jefferson Davis Highway Fredericksburg VA
1579 7100 Salem Fields Boulevard Fredericksburg VA
1243 736 Warrenton Road Fredericksburg VA
1177 9801 Courthouse Road Spotsylvania VA
1166 2612 Jefferson Davis Highway Stafford VA
578 905 Garrisonville Road Stafford VA
Quote from: MikeRa on July 27, 2016, 02:57:47 PM
Will the combined Ahold Delhaize now use the "Giant/Martins/Stop & Shop" Fruit Bowl brands, or will they use the "My Essentials" brand?
Seems like more of the stuff in Hannaford has had their name on it recently, over the My Essentials label - not sure if they went back to that after getting rid of the Bottom $ stores, since the Hannaford and Food Lion brands have a fair split between them so no issue of one supply area having to send to both?
Of course, they could just both use their own labels - unlike the Safeway/Albertsons merger where Albertsons brand stores were losing access to the labels they had from Supervalu, in this case there is no issue with both brands being available (and possibly a way to differentiate in the overlapping areas)?
Quote from: BillyGr on July 27, 2016, 03:57:39 PM
Quote from: MikeRa on July 27, 2016, 02:57:47 PM
Will the combined Ahold Delhaize now use the "Giant/Martins/Stop & Shop" Fruit Bowl brands, or will they use the "My Essentials" brand?
Seems like more of the stuff in Hannaford has had their name on it recently, over the My Essentials label - not sure if they went back to that after getting rid of the Bottom $ stores, since the Hannaford and Food Lion brands have a fair split between them so no issue of one supply area having to send to both?
Of course, they could just both use their own labels - unlike the Safeway/Albertsons merger where Albertsons brand stores were losing access to the labels they had from Supervalu, in this case there is no issue with both brands being available (and possibly a way to differentiate in the overlapping areas)?
Apart from the Taste of Inspirations gourmet brand (and the price-impact Cha-Ching brand at Food Lion) generic private label has disappeared at the Delhaize banners, with national brand equivalent product reverting to the Hannaford and Food Lion brands. (Shaw's has taken a different tack, adopting the same Safeway-derived private label as other Albertsons banners.) It's a good question as to what Ahold will do with private label at the Delhaize banners. Will we see the generic fruit bowl brands (synergies being how the merger was "sold" to investors) at the Delhaize banners, or will the synergies be more at the procurement level. I have a feeling it will be business as usual for a while as the two companies work to integrate operations.
The six stores sold to Tops by Ahold Delhaize will reopen as Tops this week (http://supermarketnews.com/store-design-construction/tops-open-six-recently-acquired-stores). They will open one a day from 8/23-8/28 in the order of Gardner, Rhinebeck, New Paltz, Wappingers Falls, Lagrangeville, Carmel (http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/story/life/food/2016/08/19/4-tops-friendly-markets-open-next-week-mid-hudson-valley/89014556/). They will also go 24 hours, a rarity outside of Price Chopper in the region.
I find the idea of overriding one's Stop & Shop card with a Tops card to be a bit foolish as Stop & Shop isn't abandoning those areas unless they really want shoppers to forget they existed.
Quote from: retailisking on July 28, 2016, 01:35:36 AM
Apart from the Taste of Inspirations gourmet brand (and the price-impact Cha-Ching brand at Food Lion)
I believe I've seen some of that Cha-Ching at Hannaford also.
Quote from: BillyGr on August 22, 2016, 06:27:13 PM
Quote from: retailisking on July 28, 2016, 01:35:36 AM
Apart from the Taste of Inspirations gourmet brand (and the price-impact Cha-Ching brand at Food Lion)
I believe I've seen some of that Cha-Ching at Hannaford also.
I haven't but that's not to say that your observation is inaccurate. And I forgot the Nature's Place natural/organic line as well as the Healthy Options HBA line.
Another Poughkeepsie Journal article on Tops entering the Mid Hudson Valley (http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/story/life/food/2016/08/24/tops-opens-rhinebeck-3-more-open-area/89265922/).
While Tops is quickly making moves, all seems quiet on the Big Y front. The only date revealed so far is North Quincy, now pushed back to 9/16 (http://www.patriotledger.com/news/20160817/future-uncertain-for-quincys-long-running-villa-rosa-restaurant) though they were sending out mailers last week for job opportunities.
Quote from: Scrabbleship on August 24, 2016, 03:28:01 PM
While Tops is quickly making moves, all seems quiet on the Big Y front.
The only date revealed so far is North Quincy, now pushed back to 9/16 though they were sending out mailers last week for job opportunities.
Haggen moved quickly on its Albertsons/Safeway acquisitions out west, which turned out to be a disaster. The acquisitions Tops made are less ambitious but there is merit in taking one's time to ensure that you make a good first impression.
Quote from: Scrabbleship on August 22, 2016, 01:46:52 PM
I find the idea of overriding one's Stop & Shop card with a Tops card to be a bit foolish as Stop & Shop isn't abandoning those areas unless they really want shoppers to forget they existed.
The FTC wants to avoid a repeat of the Haggen disaster out west where an unknown grocer entered new territories and immediately ran into problems retaining customers. A good faith effort to distribute loyalty cards to the previous Stop & Shop customer base demonstrates to regulators that Ahold is adhering to the spirit and not just the letter of the law.
Quote from: Scrabbleship on August 22, 2016, 01:46:52 PM
I find the idea of overriding one's Stop & Shop card with a Tops card to be a bit foolish as Stop & Shop isn't abandoning those areas unless they really want shoppers to forget they existed.
It seems like Tops must still be using Ahold's systems since they were owned by Ahold back in the day. It would be interesting to test if the new Tops cards also scan at Stop & Shop.
Quote from: store215 on August 25, 2016, 11:18:55 AM
Quote from: Scrabbleship on August 22, 2016, 01:46:52 PM
I find the idea of overriding one's Stop & Shop card with a Tops card to be a bit foolish as Stop & Shop isn't abandoning those areas unless they really want shoppers to forget they existed.
It seems like Tops must still be using Ahold's systems since they were owned by Ahold back in the day. It would be interesting to test if the new Tops cards also scan at Stop & Shop.
I'd say 99% that it won't work - I remember trying to use a S&S card and a Martins (connected to PA Giant) card at the MD based Giants and that neither worked there so this would be a similar situation. If anything the Tops & the PA Giant might (since those two were connected when part of Ahold) but even that is doubtful.
Interesting that they chose this week to reopen the stores, especially that one in Rhinebeck (since the Dutchess Fairgrounds are just south of it and this is fair week, which makes it harder for locals to get into the new store but also allows visitors to the fair to see the new name/brand and that they might return if they are reasonably close by).
Ahold Delhaize intends to shed another ten stores in the hyper-competitive Richmond market
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ahold-delhaize-profit-up-merger-targets-on-track-2016-08-25-54852623
Quote from: store215 on August 25, 2016, 11:18:55 AM
It seems like Tops must still be using Ahold's systems since they were owned by Ahold back in the day.
This seems like a reasonable explanation since they would only need to procure systems for the ex-Hannaford locations in Carmel and Lagrangeville which on the scale of Tops isn't that much versus the Hannaford to Big Y conversions which are a good addition of 15% to Big Y's store count.
QuoteInteresting that they chose this week to reopen the stores, especially that one in Rhinebeck (since the Dutchess Fairgrounds are just south of it and this is fair week, which makes it harder for locals to get into the new store but also allows visitors to the fair to see the new name/brand and that they might return if they are reasonably close by)
I think that they wanted the stores open before the crunch of kids going back to school started. This could also explain Gardner going first, unlike schools in New York that go back on 9/7, Gardner and adjacent towns go back on 8/31.
Another big event that would drive sales at one of the new stores: SUNY New Paltz move-in was this weekend and the elderly ShopRite across the street never could take the huge deluge during the gap between Great American closing and S&S/Tops opening. Given their total lack of brand image in these new markets, being there and open is a bit more of a big deal for them.
Quote from: Scrabbleship on August 28, 2016, 07:30:49 PM
I think that they wanted the stores open before the crunch of kids going back to school started. This could also explain Gardner going first, unlike schools in New York that go back on 9/7, Gardner and adjacent towns go back on 8/31.
Another big event that would drive sales at one of the new stores: SUNY New Paltz move-in was this weekend and the elderly ShopRite across the street never could take the huge deluge during the gap between Great American closing and S&S/Tops opening. Given their total lack of brand image in these new markets, being there and open is a bit more of a big deal for them.
Plus Tops is a run-of-the-mill supermarket chain, so they can't afford to be closed for extensive renovations lest they permanently lose market share to competitors. This is in sharp contrast to the situation in Richmond where Publix will be taking their sweet time with the Martin's locations they're taking over. It's crucial that the Publix locations live up to the company's reputation for quality and service right off the bat.
Quote from: store215 on August 25, 2016, 11:18:55 AM
It seems like Tops must still be using Ahold's systems since they were owned by Ahold back in the day.
Quote from: Scrabbleship on August 28, 2016, 07:30:49 PM
This seems like a reasonable explanation since they would only need to procure systems for the ex-Hannaford locations in Carmel and Lagrangeville which on the scale of Tops isn't that much versus the Hannaford to Big Y conversions which are a good addition of 15% to Big Y's store count.
Although they (Tops, that is) has some experience in doing conversions of stores in the relatively recent past - they had quite a chunk when they took over the remains of the P&C chain, and also when they switched the last of the Grand Union locations over. Which of course brings up an interesting thing - the one Grand Union that they DIDN'T take at the time (Millerton, NY) as it was somewhat away from the rest of the stores, but wouldn't be that far now from these new Hudson Valley stores (and certainly not as far as that one MA store).
Quote from: Scrabbleship on August 28, 2016, 07:30:49 PM
Another big event that would drive sales at one of the new stores: SUNY New Paltz move-in was this weekend and the elderly ShopRite across the street never could take the huge deluge during the gap between Great American closing and S&S/Tops opening. Given their total lack of brand image in these new markets, being there and open is a bit more of a big deal for them.
Good point - wasn't thinking about that area and the college opening (though I know what you mean about the ShopRite being on the small side - seems they were thought of as a possibility to take the newer larger store as well at one point).
Quote from: BillyGr on August 29, 2016, 02:36:10 PM
Which of course brings up an interesting thing - the one Grand Union that they DIDN'T take at the time (Millerton, NY) as it was somewhat away from the rest of the stores, but wouldn't be that far now from these new Hudson Valley stores (and certainly not as far as that one MA store).
The issue in Millerton is a battle over the proposed Hannaford that would be built between the GU and the Connecticut line. Longtime Millerton people are for it, especially since GU even its current state gets a lot of traffic from elsewhere in northern/eastern Dutchess, northwest Connecticut, and southeast Columbia County. A band of independent markets on both the New York and Connecticut sides came out against it but that was three years ago (http://www.tmi-archives.com/news/local-markets-oppose-hannaford-millerton).
At the same time, at some point C&S told Freshtown, owners of the ex-GU in Amenia and formerly in Dover Plains (plus the ex-A&P in Margaretville), that if the Hannaford deal was DOA that Freshtown would get the Millerton GU. The last action on any of this was taken before the Ahold/Delhaize merger so I wonder if now out of brand visibility they'd make it a S&S seeing the closest chain supermarket to Millerton (North Canaan, CT) is under that name.
QuoteGood point - wasn't thinking about that area and the college opening (though I know what you mean about the ShopRite being on the small side - seems they were thought of as a possibility to take the newer larger store as well at one point).
IIRC ShopRite wanted the site that became S&S back when it was shuttered after Great American and Ames closed.
On the tangent of another divesture, the former Food Lions going to Weis in the Fredericksburg, VA area will convert in later September into October (http://patch.com/virginia/fredericksburg/food-lion-conversion-weis-markets-will-happen-early-fall). I would assume the Maryland/Delaware stores in the same position would be along the same timeframe.
Dates for the Hannaford to Big Y conversions have been announced (http://www.progressivegrocer.com/industry-news-trends/independent-grocers/big-y-hires-1084-former-hannaford-stores?cc=23).
Easton, Kingston, Milford, and Norwood will close on 9/6 and re-open 9/10. Norwell, Peabody, Quincy, and Saugus will close 9/12 and re-open 9/16.
The Giant [MD] in Sailsbury, MD has begun it's conversion to Acme Markets:
http://acmestyleblog.blogspot.com/2016/09/sailsbury-sign-swap.html#comment-form (http://acmestyleblog.blogspot.com/2016/09/sailsbury-sign-swap.html#comment-form)
Thanks to Acme Style for this information
Quote from: BillyGr on August 22, 2016, 06:27:13 PM
Quote from: retailisking on July 28, 2016, 01:35:36 AM
Apart from the Taste of Inspirations gourmet brand (and the price-impact Cha-Ching brand at Food Lion)
I believe I've seen some of that Cha-Ching at Hannaford also.
Finally saw Cha-Ching in a Hannaford circular - for 1-ply napkins.
The Boston Globe yesterday had an article on Big Y's entry into Greater Boston (http://"https://www.bostonglobe.com/business/other/2016/09/28/springfield-grocer-big-takes-big-step-into-eastern-mass/LrpNs4ABJkz7gyetow6XGL/story.html#comments"). So far, reaction seems to be mixed as there seem to be a LOT more Hannaford loyalists than one would have thought and that some of Big Y'a quirks (gold coins, a store card, Buy 1/Get 2 sales) seem like a step back.
Quote from: Scrabbleship on September 29, 2016, 01:59:57 PM
The Boston Globe yesterday had an article on Big Y's entry into Greater Boston (http://"https://www.bostonglobe.com/business/other/2016/09/28/springfield-grocer-big-takes-big-step-into-eastern-mass/LrpNs4ABJkz7gyetow6XGL/story.html#comments"). So far, reaction seems to be mixed as there seem to be a LOT more Hannaford loyalists than one would have thought and that some of Big Y'a quirks (gold coins, a store card, Buy 1/Get 2 sales) seem like a step back.
Seems like the fact that Hannaford operates on more of an everyday price model where Big Y does the weekly sales and special deals model is making it more difficult where one is used to one setup and suddenly has to change to the other one.
Tops to close the ex-Stop & Shop in Wappingers Falls, NY as of 2/1/18 (http://"http://wpdh.com/hudson-valley-supermarket-closing-laying-off-83-employees/"). This only 17 months after Tops bought its share of the Ahold Delhaize rejects.
Given the state of the market in the Mid-Hudson Valley, who knows what the solution might be. The market really lacks anything on the upper end save for a couple co-ops and Adams Fairacre Farms, perhaps if Price Chopper has the resources and motivation this would be a great spot for a Market32 though if that was an idea wouldn't they have converted their sole Dutchess County location in Poughkeepsie already?
Quote from: Scrabbleship on November 10, 2017, 11:17:55 AM
Tops to close the ex-Stop & Shop in Wappingers Falls, NY as of 2/1/18 (http://"http://wpdh.com/hudson-valley-supermarket-closing-laying-off-83-employees/"). This only 17 months after Tops bought its share of the Ahold Delhaize rejects.
Given the state of the market in the Mid-Hudson Valley, who knows what the solution might be. The market really lacks anything on the upper end save for a couple co-ops and Adams Fairacre Farms, perhaps if Price Chopper has the resources and motivation this would be a great spot for a Market32 though if that was an idea wouldn't they have converted their sole Dutchess County location in Poughkeepsie already?
Fixed ya link: http://wpdh.com/hudson-valley-supermarket-closing-laying-off-83-employees/ (http://wpdh.com/hudson-valley-supermarket-closing-laying-off-83-employees/)
Quote from: Scrabbleship on November 10, 2017, 11:17:55 AM
Given the state of the market in the Mid-Hudson Valley, who knows what the solution might be. The market really lacks anything on the upper end save for a couple co-ops and Adams Fairacre Farms, perhaps if Price Chopper has the resources and motivation this would be a great spot for a Market32 though if that was an idea wouldn't they have converted their sole Dutchess County location in Poughkeepsie already?
Price Chopper is (eventually) converting all the stores to the Market 32, but they figured it would take a number of years to do so, and so far they haven't really shown much of a pattern in which stores are getting done when (for instance, they re-did two older and smaller stores right in Albany that were a question if they'd even keep running, but haven't done the other stores within a short distance that are much larger and newer).
Same as the oddity where they closed the other store down Rt. 9 from the one still there in Dutchess(that is now a ShopRite in South Hills) to leave the one lonely store in the county in the first place.
Aside from that, I don't know - one other that could take over the spot, if they were still interested in adding to their territory as they were a couple years back would be Acme, with those A&P locations they picked up not all that far away (but far enough) and allowing them to tap into the busier corridor along Rt. 9.
Quote from: JJBers on November 10, 2017, 01:22:07 PM
Quote from: Scrabbleship on November 10, 2017, 11:17:55 AM
Tops to close the ex-Stop & Shop in Wappingers Falls, NY as of 2/1/18 (http://"http://wpdh.com/hudson-valley-supermarket-closing-laying-off-83-employees/"). This only 17 months after Tops bought its share of the Ahold Delhaize rejects.
Given the state of the market in the Mid-Hudson Valley, who knows what the solution might be. The market really lacks anything on the upper end save for a couple co-ops and Adams Fairacre Farms, perhaps if Price Chopper has the resources and motivation this would be a great spot for a Market32 though if that was an idea wouldn't they have converted their sole Dutchess County location in Poughkeepsie already?
Fixed ya link: http://wpdh.com/hudson-valley-supermarket-closing-laying-off-83-employees/ (http://wpdh.com/hudson-valley-supermarket-closing-laying-off-83-employees/)
Weird - the photo on that WPDH story is actually a 2003 photo of a Food 4 Less store in Chicago!
Quote from: BillyGr on July 27, 2016, 03:57:39 PM
Quote from: MikeRa on July 27, 2016, 02:57:47 PM
Will the combined Ahold Delhaize now use the "Giant/Martins/Stop & Shop" Fruit Bowl brands, or will they use the "My Essentials" brand?
Seems like more of the stuff in Hannaford has had their name on it recently, over the My Essentials label - not sure if they went back to that after getting rid of the Bottom $ stores, since the Hannaford and Food Lion brands have a fair split between them so no issue of one supply area having to send to both?
Of course, they could just both use their own labels - unlike the Safeway/Albertsons merger where Albertsons brand stores were losing access to the labels they had from Supervalu, in this case there is no issue with both brands being available (and possibly a way to differentiate in the overlapping areas)?
I have seen on Hannaford website today (12/25/2017) that they are now selling Care One, Etos, and Companion brands that are owned by Ahold USA. Food Lion is not selling these brands yet.